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Mason Letteau Stallings's avatar

Interesting article. I do agree with Russell Kirk that there were conservatives among both the Federalists and Anti-Federalists, and thus it is cool that TAP publishes pieces with both positions, such as this and Mr. Veillon's.

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Tom Sarrouf's avatar

The Union is prior to the states in the sense that the states weren't states as such until there was a Union. Analogously, the marriage makes the family, even though the spouses both exist prior to the marriage, they aren't spouses or family until they say "I do."

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Tom Sarrouf's avatar

Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I don't see why the whole preceding the parts wouldn't apply to something artificial. There's also the historical case that none of the "states" would exist without them all banding together in a union under the Continental Army in the Revolution (the whole, "if we don't all hang together we will surely hang separately" line from Franklin). So in a formal sense (unless I am wrong), but also in a historical sense, Union precedes states. Also, the states are not sovereign under the Constitution--they were under the Articles, but it was ratifying conventions rather than state legislatures that adopted the Constitution, which represents that the People were adopting the Constitution rather than the states through the legislatures.

What's the hang-up here?

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